- Manufacturer
- Intamin
- Type
- Looping Starship with the shell from "Bounty"
- Number of passengers
- 50
- Ride cycle time
- 300 seconds
- Hourly capacity
- Approx 400 people
- Opened
- 1985
- Closed
- 2004
Bounty’s Revenge – Ride Removal
Bounty’s Revenge – Current Location
Bounty’s Revenge – Specifications
Bounty’s Revenge – PLC Infomation
Bounty’s Revenge – PLC Ladder Logic
Bounty’s Revenge was a beautifully themed fiber-glass boat that appeared to be constructed of old wooden planks.
The ride began with a smooth, powerful rocking motion that increases in speed as the boat climbs higher in the arc it is traveling. As it reaches the top of the arc, it comes to a virtual stop, upside-down, with nothing between the heads of its riders and the ground, hanging there not knowing whether the ship will go forwards and complete the first of two loops, or backwards, to try from the other side. When the ship completes the loop, riders will experience a brief sensation of being able to fly.
Originally the ride was operated by 3 cast members. An operator, a loader and an unloader. As time moved on it was reduced to 2 person operation, and finally 1 person operation. Beacuse the ride went upside down, people would lose all sorts of item from their pockets during the ride. So much so, that after many many years the lake was drained and many hundreds of dollars of coins were found in the lake beneath the ride. An over enthusiastic ride operator even once pressed the emergency stop when a cigarette light fell out of someones pocket and exploded on the roof of the queue house. Guests were often kicked out of the park after being caught spitting on this ride.
Stories & memories – Bountys PLC
Bountys PLC
Original post
Alledged refurbishement of Bountys revenge only consisted of coat of paint … despite the fact that its PLC has needed replacing for 2yrs, when it breaks down they patch it up to keep it running?
Can anyone provide more details on what was wrong with the PLC?
How did this impact the ride?
Comment 1 – djsupersleuth
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
The refurb on Bounty’s circa 2003 (its last one) was more than a coat of paint. It was not uncommon for a breakdown to require the maintenance employee to contort to an odd shape and a slide down into the bowels of the ship to tap on a few valves or to repair a dodgy airline leaking etc etc. This would of course be either 1: When it was filthy hot and you are inside a confined space sweating your balls off or 2: When it was raining and the slide down would incorporate getting wet. Then no matter when you would always hit your head on the compressor air receiver on the way out. So during that refurb a lot was done to rebuild the valves, cylinders airline etc etc. Also a lot of cosmetic work, painting, fibregalssing cleaning was done then as well.
As for PLC I am not the best to ask about that. I know it gave trouble intermittantly but overall it was reliable. I remember one time we had a positioning fault where the ship would complete a cycle and then stop off centre and trip out the PLC which took an absolute age to faultfind and fix (1 Month). To keep it running the Cruisers (Duty Maintenance Fitter and Electrician) had to be permanently posted at Bounty’s all day to reset the ride after every cycle. In the end the encoder at the top was the faulty component.
Comment 2 – bjs
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
The PLC on the Bounty was a Westinghouse Numalogic but this was coupled to dedicated electronic controls, nothing like the normal inputs and outputs found on the SRR, Beastie and Bush Beast. The encoder was always the first thing to check if a postioning problem occured. When the ride was commission (before the park open) I was given hands on training from the guys who actual put this together (I think they were from Sweden). If you know what little leds to look for you could diagnose problems relativly easy. One day while on cruise patrol, we were at the Bounty when all the conditions were perfect. The ship swung from side to side and when it reached the top it just stopped for what seemed to be forever. The encoder on top was to ensure the PLC knew where the ship was at all times, it would also sync the main drive wheels. A safety was built into the system, if an encoder input was not received with in 13 seconds, it would assume a broken chain on the encoder and put the ship in to estop mode. The ship would continue the arc but come down on all 4 tyres that were locked up, lots of smoke and lots of sreams. Hope this helps.
Comment 3 – djsupersleuth
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Yes now I remember a little more, at the time this fault occured the encoder was indeed the first thing checked by the sparkies but through either inexperience by the sparkie that went up or an obscure fault with the encoder – although now I also remember that the encoder was changed out with a spare unit and the fault remained with the ride. I think in the end it may have actually been a mechanical fault backlash/freeplay with the shaft that gave the encoder its inputs.
Comment 4 – wonderland
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Here is a pic of Bountys PLC and some of the dedicated electronic controls.
In one of the pics you can see a handheld numa logic programmer.
This pic was on a floppy disc in Bountys plant room after the park closed, on the disk was these two pics, some nume logic programming software, and ladder logic for Beastie and Bountys (normal and logic used in the laser show).
All the plc software and logic i found on the disc can be found here…
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=149
Before i get to the PLC pics, a few bountys questions….
You stated that bountys had a comprossor on board, what was it for? (lap bars?)
Where was the encoder?
How did power get to the comprossor?
What other stuff was on board the ship?
Thanks
Comment 5 – djsupersleuth
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
The compressor was for the lapbars.
The encoder was at the top pivot swing point I believe on the Goldrush side at the top.
The power was delivered to the compressor via slip rings which run around the top pivot swing point.
The compressor was a special oiless type (due to it spending a lot of time inverted) which had teflon coated pistons etc.
There are two large air receivors – one at either end of the ship to deliver air to the lapbarbars and locking mechs.
Comment 6 – Robert
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Hi everybody! wls already know a little about me, but, to make a long story short.
My name is Robert, 25 years old, lives in Sweden and LOVES INTAMIN LOOPING STARSHIPS/SPACE SHUTTLES!
Now, since this is a chance of a lifetime to get in touch with rideops from a Looping Starship, i will take it!
So i have some questions for you:
How did you operate the ride?
Did you operated the ride manually? Like, you turned a knob which gave the drive wheels more power?
It was only the drive wheels who pushed the ship, right?And there is also no engine in the top centre? Not that can see of!
Was there any kind of brakes in the top centre that allowed the slow inversions, or was it just the balance based on the riders that sometimes gave you awesome hangtime?
If the ride ran automatically, could you choose between different programs?Was the ride op able to record a new program?
How did the ride cycle on Bounty look? How many loops did it make/ridecycle?
Was it a popular ride?
Does anybody know how much the ride cost?
This must have been the second installation of a looping starship in the world?
I can guarantee you that more questions will come!
wls, regardning your questions about what it looked like under the glassfibre body, do you want me to post pictures of what it looks like? Do you guys also want to see what our Intamin Space Shuttle looked like here in Sweden and what happened to it? Together with some facts? Maybe we can help eacother with information that we dont know of?
Please let me know!
Greetings from a rainy south-Sweden
// Robert
Comment 7 – alexb
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Hi Robert,
I never operated bounty’s, but spent my time in the op booth during breaks, chatting with ride op friends, so I might be able to answer some of what you have, and anything else I will have to defer to bussy…
How did you operate the ride?
Operation of the ship was fairly simple. There were a few controls for safety – open and close the gates, unlock\lock the chest restraints, unlock\lock leg restraints. Basically after that, a simple despatch (not sure if it was one button or several buttons) and of course the e-stop button.
Did you operated the ride manually? Like, you turned a knob which gave the drive wheels more power?
No. Most rides at WLS operated automatically, and operators generally required only to perform safety checks and despatch the ride, and the ride program would do the rest. Some rides did have manual control, but in the case of Bounty’s, it would require an extraordinary amount of concentration to operate it manually, as a split second mistake would have devastating effects
It was only the drive wheels who pushed the ship, right?And there is also no engine in the top centre? Not that can see of!
There is no engine in the centre pivot. The counter weight made it easier for the drive wheels to spin the ship.
Was there any kind of brakes in the top centre that allowed the slow inversions, or was it just the balance based on the riders that sometimes gave you awesome hangtime?
Pure balance was all that was required to have a slow inversion \ hangtime. I know of some operators that would seat guests in such a way to achieve this.
If the ride ran automatically, could you choose between different programs?Was the ride op able to record a new program?
There was only option for one program. This option could be changed through reprogramming of the PLCs (see pics above). It was a fairly simplistic despatch, once the safety checks were done.
How did the ride cycle on Bounty look? How many loops did it make/ridecycle?
the cycle would begin, as with most, with the ship slowly swinging, pendulum style, until it built up enough momentum to do a 360 degree revolution. I remember in the past seeing bounty’s do several inversions, but in the end I don’t think it did more than 2 or 3.
Was it a popular ride?
Bounty’s was one of the most popular, as it was the first ride past the entrance. Always the first ride to cycle on, and the last one to cycle off.
Does anybody know how much the ride cost?
no idea
This must have been the second installation of a looping starship in the world?
again… no idea.
Comment 8 – Bussy
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
This must have been the second installation of a looping starship in the world?
Yes and I believe there is only one, Jet Scream at Canada’s Wonderland.
Bussy
Comment 9 – Robert
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Bussy, youre right that there is one called Jet Scream..But its far from the only one produced after Bountys!
I will tonight post pictures and facts of the one we had here in Sweden and i will post pictures of what it looks like now (So wls can se the airtanks).
I hope it isnt against this forum to post it??Because its maybe not that realted to Wonderland more than the ride type..?
Comment 10 – wonderland
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Hi Robert,
Youre more then welcome to post here, i think ride types are relevant enough.
i cant wait to see the pics
Here is one for you…. This was found in Bountys plant room after Bountys was removed…..
Comment 11 – Robert
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Comment 12 – Robert
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
wls, i have more pictures of it in its shape of today. Let me know if you want me to post them also!
Hope you liked my post about this.
Lopping Starships Forever!!
// Robert
Comment 13 – Robert
Subject: Re: Bountys PLC
Bussy,
Here you have the Jet Scream at Canadas Wonderland. It was installed for the 1990 season and it is themed to be a fighter jet. The TV ad for it was a mix between clips of a fighter jet going into a loop and then Jet Scream going into a loop, and then a power dive and so on.
The ride still stands there today and it still seems to be in great condition. Im going to contact Canadas Wonderland about this ride to get more pictures and information about it. Im currently working on getting information from all the parks that has/had a LSS/SS. I will collect all these facts and make a "book" about the Intamin/Giovanola Looping Starships/Space Shuttles.
The ride cycles of today ( i think its been reprogrammed since it opened) is also unique for Jet Scream. It only gains a little momentum everytime it passes the drive wheels, allowing it to swing back and forth many times until it almost stops at the top and on the next swing going all the way around before slowing down. So it only makes one complete loop per cycle.
Note: Jet Scream has the thicker OTSRs, just like Aerovarvet..Correct me if im wrong, but don thoseOTSRs look thicker than the ones Bountys had?
Anyways, i hope you like what you see and feedback is always welcome!
/ Robert[Robert’s 6 photos of Canada’s Wonderland’s Jet Scream are no longer available]